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The Collectors Newsletter #537 -- July 2007
The Collectors Newsletter #537 -- July 2007
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Highlighting clubs of interest to collectors.
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2) After you read these stories, tell us your interesting story. Send your story to firstname.lastname@example.org and we may publish it here . We want to hear any interesting or unusual stories you would like to share with us
that are related to collecting or anything vintage.
For those of you that buy and sell antiques and collectibles on eBay, Auctionbytes.com has an interesting article into what is happening in that marketplace. Take a look at:
What’s happened to the antique business?
I read with interest the numerous comments of writers who were lamenting the sad state of the antique business. Clearly malls and antique shops are having a difficult time making financial ends meet and prices for many categories of ‘antiques and collectibles’ have clearly declined relative to the antique boom of the 1990’s when prices reached record levels. I have a very different take on the reasons for the current state of the business than the ones I read in your newsletter.
Ebay and other Ecommerce marketplaces: Collectors can reach an international audience for antiques rather than depending on a limited local market served by an antique shop or mall. I could take some of my finest pieces of antique advertising to a local show, mall or shop and not achieve 20% of the price those items would bring by expanding the size of the collector audience available on Ebay or online auctions of which many feature in person auctions combined with Ebay auctions.
The explosion of phony 60’s-90’s new ‘instant’ collectibles: While there will undoubtedly be items from the 60-s to 90’s that will eventually become collectible, newly created collectibles produced in mass quantities have hurt the market. For example, tens of thousands of Coca-Cola advertising ‘collectibles’ have been created in the last thirty years (commemorative bottles, reproduction serving trays etc.). Yet, today these items bring cents on the dollar when sold in today’s market and most are not even marketable. Individuals who invested in new reproduction and other mass market collectibles including items from the Franklin Mint, Danbury Mint and many others have experienced major loses. Many who invested in these 'created collectibles' have abandoned collecting for obvious reasons.
Most (so called) antique shops and malls have become junk markets: Many who complain about the demise of many malls and antique shops fail to recognize that most so called antique shops are nothing more than ‘flea markets’. My wife and I still collect and love antiques and invest significantly in them. That said, we have been so turned off by going into shops that masquerade as ‘antique shops’ that offer nothing but junk (Elvis dolls, Avon bottles, new import furniture and new collectibles) that we pass up most antique shops encountered during our travels. Recently we went into an antique shop and after reviewing the inventory estimated that not 5% of what was in the shop could truly be called a genuine antique.
Antique investors need to research areas of the antique market that are hot, become an expert in the fields they want to collect, network with other key dealers and collectors and follow quality auctions and sales by private collectors. Many high end antiques are quietly sold by one collector to another. Its still a STRONG AND VIBRANT market out there. Today as always, high end quality original antiques in desired categories still command tremendous collector interest and high prices. What’s happening is that those who thought they could throw a bunch of nonsense junk into an antique mall space and make a bunch of money have learned the hard way that low end antiques and new created collectibles will always lack consumer demand. Chris H. Beyer, Author of: Classic Coca-Cola Serving Trays, Classic Coca Cola Calendars and Coca-Cola Girls: An Art Advertising History.
In my opinion, what has happened is a combination of a number of things. First, boomers (like me) are pretty clever and study things - because a number of us have had to re-invent our careers several times - so we've learned what is junk and what is good. We just won't buy cr*p and quickly drop dealers who sell it. Here's an example, I collect older .22 rifles -the kind that kids in the 20s thru the 50s used to get for Christmas and birthdays. I took the time, trouble and expense to get a Federal collectors license (the "C&R" FFL ). I've amassed a library of references. I've found sources for parts and learned a bit of gunsmithing. I've done the same for other things I collect - like Heintz silver on bronze items. When I shop I know what I'm looking at and I'll test the dealer or shopkeeper. If they tell me honestly that they have no real idea, that's Ok - IF they feed me a line of cr*p, I walk and don't come back. Yes, I know there's a certain amount of puffery in the bargaining process.
Second, eBay has opened up access to other areas. In the past most collectors stayed in their region and only bought what was available there. EBay has allowed the average collector to search globally. This has leveled the field, the collector now has the ability to see what the global price is and expects the local dealer to match it. Heck, even garage sales are affected by this.
Third, the purchase of collectibles is discretionary and currently a lot of folks are finding that their discretionary income is less than it was - they just don't have the money. Just ask any boomer who is trying to put their child (or children) through college while trying to fund a 401(k) (who has a pension anymore?).
Fourth, the "Antiques Roadshow" effect. I watch it & you watch it and we see "experts" informing people that their object is worth more than the owner ever suspected. This raises expectations of sellers who feel that they have a similar object and demand the high end of the experts' range. This deters customers from even bothering to ask about a piece; it may even keep them home - why bother to go looking at stuff you can't afford. The good thing that experts (like the Kenos) also show how to examine a piece for telltale signs of genuineness and fakery (innocent or not).
Fifth, there are too many dealers. The good, honest ones with reasonable price expectations and quality inventory will survive. The others will go fishing. My two cents. PAS
This is my take on the slow sales. The Antique Industry is run by individuals, not companies. We have no one to market us or our wares. The younger generation doesn't even shop the antique stores. For our business to stay in business we need to have some magazines that show how antiques can blend seamlessly with today's looks. People would be shocked to see that the furniture offered by Pottery Barn is not new, but merely copies of vintage furniture. The younger set needs to be educated on how vintage furniture is better quality and probably less costly than today's furniture.
People in their mid 50's to 60's that furnished their homes with antiques, are now reaching retirement age, and are selling and moving into contemporary homes and unloading all their antiques that they have grown tired of. That generation of buyer is gone for the most part.
My shop is a combination of newer and vintage. My newer items outsell the vintage. Decorating trends today are media driven. We all had Williamsburg blue and dusty rose in the 70's, and somewhere in the 80's we all had touches of Victorian in our homes. Try to sell those Victorian items in a shop today and they collect dust. People used to keep their furnishings 20-30 years, but today people are more likely to change their look every five years. Today brass is out and polished nickel is in. The antique business has failed to keep reinventing our looks to keep up with what is the latest. Dealers must study what is now the trend, and try to buy wisely. Three years ago at an outside antiques show, a family used to paint every piece of furniture they could find soft white and then sand the edges for wear to sell the "shabby chic" look. They accessorized their displays on the grass and 90% of their furniture sold by the end of the day. At the same sale other dealers selling less expensive, but similar brown stained furniture sold very little.
The one store I see doing a great job of marketing the vintage look is Anthropologie, and their customer age ranges between 30 to 40's, with I believe an average sale being $100.00. The only younger shoppers at the antique malls I see are the "artsy fartsy" types that are always in search of something quirky. If I had the funding, I would jump at publishing a sophisticated antiques magazine and get books published to show people what treasures are available and how they can be incorporated into today's decorating. The antique industry needs to establish the "look that is in" and then work to sell the "look". Presentation is everything. People just need to be given the vision. Lea Ann--Kentucky
Maybe the change in demographics is the reason for falling sales. More young people who grew up with new and shiny things that are disposable have little care of the old and worn. Also it just might be that people have enough and don't need any more. John
Hello - I am reading the discussion about the decline of antique stores with interest. I am a relatively new collector, having started with eBay purchases. I am at the older edge of the boomer generation, and am quite prone to using a computer to buy what I want. However, I often go to local antique stores to search for my particular interests. What I often find are too few sales people to help open cases, failure to have visible and readable price tags (which then require me to ask for someone to open a case), poor merchandising approaches - like mixtures of highly unrelated, varying quality items crowded into very small spaces, and dust so bad I sneeze and sniffle throughout the time I'm in the store with cigarette smoke wafting from the back room. (The crowdedness seems to be so common that I think it may be a culture that promotes this as a "good" selling procedure.) Finally, many items in these stores are broken or have pieces missing or have been repaired without so noting in the description. As a buyer, I am not looking for things that are repaired or have broken parts. I don't buy them in retail and would not buy them in antique stores. My husband and I frequent stores when we are out of town and find these concerns no matter where we go in the country. Thanks for your newsletter. It is great reading! Linda from Rockville, MD
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1. You have a vintage item in hand and you are trying to find relatives of the original owner(s). This could be an old photo album, baby book, diploma, Family Bible, or other vintage items that can be linked to a specific person or family.
2. You are looking for a fairly common vintage item that has deep personal meaning for you or someone you know. I'm sorry, but we do not post requests for "one of a kind items" that have been lost or stolen.
Remember to include as many details about the item(s) as you can. For your story to run in this section, you must include your email address and allow us to publish it. If this service helps you eventually track down the relatives or find an item, please tell us about it in a follow-up story.
I was looking on eBay for a few items recently, when I got the urge to see if there was anything on eBay about St. Joseph, Missouri, where my father had been stationed during WWII. To my surprise there was at item of four photographs of a flood that occurred there in 1943 at Rosecrans Air Force Base. I looked at the four photographs displayed and to my amazement one of the men in each photograph looked amazingly like my Dad. The pictures were very small, but his posture alone was a dead giveaway. I called my mother and asked if she remembered the flood and she said yes, that she recalled his mentioning photographs taken at the time. I contacted the seller who confirmed my father's name was noted on the back of the photos. He had received them from a widow of one of the men in the pictures. Needless to say, he was amazed that I had decided to look on eBay that day and "found" my Dad. I won the auction and received the photographs today. I intend having them enlarged and copied so that each of my siblings can have copies. Personally, I like to think that it was no coincidence this happened, and that Dad just wanted to pop in one more time to let us all know he is at peace.
Susan T. Stuart, Florida
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8) Funny Old Stuff
This is our humor section. These are humorous family stories and comments that are sent in by readers. If you have a submission you would like to share, please send it to firstname.lastname@example.org and we may run it in the next issue.
Margaret's story about buying a cute, little "capon" instead of a turkey for Thanksgiving reminded me of how a capon almost caused me to have a heart attack! In the late sixties when I was in college, my first true
love's parents had come down from Canada to Virginia to take us out to dinner at a very elegant restaurant. I was a nervous wreck to begin with. We were seated at a large, round table. There must have been a
few additional people there as well. As the waiter took their orders, each person kept saying, "Capon." I had never heard this word before and I was frantically trying to figure out if this was some strange greeting that you said before you ordered or some ritual or WHAT! As each person continued to say "capon," the waiter was getting closer and closer to me and I had no idea what to do! Did I say "capon" and then order my meal?!? TERROR was gripping my very being!!! In fact, I was so scared, I'm not sure WHAT I did! I THINK I finally saw "capon" on the menu JUST IN TIME to avoid saying the word "capon" before I ordered a seafood platter! :-) Sue Long in Poquoson, Virginia
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10) A Vintage Recipe
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Over 1200 wonderful vintage recipes are listed.
Barb requested some recipes for "cookie in a paper cup with a clove" We received this response....
Kourambiedes (Greek Butter Cookies)
traditionally calls for studding each cookie with a whole clove to perfume the dough while it is baking, and then removing the clove before serving. But to be safe, you can eliminate the clove if you like.
(From New York Times)
1 pound unsalted butter
1 large egg
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
2 teaspoons baking powder
4 teaspoons confectioners' sugar
1/2 cup finely chopped walnuts (optional)
3-1/2 cups all-purpose flour
1 cup confectioners' sugar for dusting
Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Using an electric mixer, beat butter until creamy. Add egg, vanilla, baking powder, 4 teaspoons confectioners' sugar and walnuts. Add half the flour, and mix well.
Turn dough onto a board or counter. Knead in the remaining flour until the mixture is smooth and no longer sticky. Divide dough into quarters, and roll 1/4 into a log about 1 inch in diameter. Cut diagonally into 1-1/2-inch pieces. Put the pieces on a lightly greased cookie sheet 1-1/2 inches apart. Repeat with the remaining dough.
Bake cookies 25 to 30 minutes, or until the bottoms are lightly browned. Cool, place in paper cup and then dust generously with confectioners' sugar.
Makes 4 dozen cookies.
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11) A vintage recipe request from a reader
As with collectibles, people also have very strong feelings about foods from their past. Sometimes these special recipes get lost. This section is to help people who are looking for lost recipes from their past. If you
submit a request, please include the geographical region where you had this recipe.
My grandmother made an "Ice cream" in the freezer without an ice cream maker. She just mixed the ingredients, poured them into a Tupperware bowl, put a lid on it and put it in the freezer. A few hours later, out came ice cream. Does anyone have a recipe for this? Bill
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