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The Collectors Newsletter #560 -- September 2007
The Collectors Newsletter #560 -- September 2007
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I would like to thank everybody for answering my requests about the John Deere tractor raised up on Coke bottles.
. I look forward to your newsletter every week. Once again thank you, it made my day. James R
Visiting many auctions with my family as a child my mother was often the "first bid" on items where the Auctioneer had dropped the initial asking price down to a ridiculously low price for an item. Attending an auction earlier this year I would often see initial runs from the Auctioneer take prices down to a very low level, can someone advise me of the etiquette here? Is it OK to "first bid" when you would take an item at that price but not once it gets higher, to start things off then drop out when the price gets above "bargain" level or is this he job of whomever really, really wants the item and inflating the price that someone else then pays?…. Advice appreciated!.
Through the help of two very nice ladies whom I have yet to meet, I am going to be able to acquire a very rare White Rotary Sewing Machine. This is an electric made in 1926 by the White Sewing Company in Cleveland, Ohio. It is made out of bronze and copper and is the most beautiful machine I have ever seen (Pictures). It looks like a new penny and is in a beautiful Mt. Vernon cabinet. But I cannot find anything about this machine, we only know of six machines and I would like to know how many were produced and were they sold to the general public or did this have something to do with the 50th anniversary of the White Company which was in 1926. I have searched including the Smithsonian and the current White Company but no one seems to know about a bronze sewing machine. It is cast in bronze and embossed. Anyway I am delighted to be able to have one. I did find that the White cabinets were made by the Kundtz Company which was eventually purchased by the White Company. Do you know anything further about this beautiful machine?
My largest collections are Hummels and bone china jewelry, both displayed in glass china cabinets. I realize not everyone loves Hummels but they bring such a smile to my face every day. Several years ago I decided to focus on collecting "The Little Professionals." I love Hummels featuring a work role...such as the Baker, the Artist, etc. I often recommend to newer Hummel collectors that they consider a theme to help them focus their collecting such as Hummels with animals or Hummels with music, etc. I also have the Hummel nativity...adding one piece a year and keep it displayed year 'round. Maybe this year hubby will get me a camel!
Most of my treasures are the ones that took the most effort and time to obtain. For me, the hunt is as much fun as the locating! My grandmother owned the Goebel HX 256 Children's crèche set and I always loved it. My Mom now has the set but I found one for myself on eBay after searching for nearly 10 years. This set was sold in the Schmit catalog in 1955 and has a palm tree. Last year I found a second set (although missing the palm tree) that I will pass to my daughter when she leaves the nest!
One of my other favorite possessions is a photograph made from the original Lewis Hine negative in the National Archives collection. That took me almost 10 years to track that down with help from wonderful curators at the Red Cross and the Eastman-Kodak museum.
Another one of my favorite possessions is a large Baby Chrissy that I have had since the 70's. I even went so far as to buy a second one on eBay for my daughter in 2000 when she wanted to play with mine.....love my daughter but I wasn't going to risk damage to MY baby Chrissy.
My no-cost collectible is "friendship rocks" or rocks that have a complete circle running through them. My grandmother started me collecting these when I was a young child. Thanks....love the newsletter! Rebecca
Hi, My sister & I had to close our mom's estate last year. We've always been best friends, but have seen too many families break apart over estates. So we made a plan before starting. We chose items 1 at a time, with the oldest sister starting. We did that by groups: kitchenwares, furniture, etc. After we took what we really wanted, the rest went to charity. But what to do with the car? We both could use it, but there was nothing of comparable value for the other sister. So we hired an independent auto appraiser. The sister who kept the car would pay the other sister 1/2 of the appraised value. It was the same as if we sold the car & split the money. For photos, I took them all. After scanning them, we will each have a complete CD set. We're still best friends. Our one regret: We came across some old WWII memorabilia that belonged to our dad. We never knew they existed & can no longer ask any questions. That history is now lost to us. So for those of you out there who think you'll get to that labeling project someday...please don't procrastinate. Just do 15 minutes a night in front of the TV. Take small bites, but start.
On a previous subject: I don't mind the negative dealer stories. I think we all know there's both good & bad with every group of people. Maybe some people will see themselves through other's eyes & make a positive change. A loyal reader in Fresno, CA.
While in nursing school in the early 80's, I desperately needed a desk. My husband and I were going to look at a used car from a private owner in a wealthy neighborhood. As we pulled into this neighborhood, there was a huge pile of stuff at the end of a driveway that included a desk, and an elderly woman was sweeping out the garage. We stopped and I asked her if this was set out for pick-up for garbage, and if so, could I have the desk. She told me I could have the desk, but only if I took everything. Her father had passed and this was what did not sell at the estate sale. So we loaded up our rust bucket, and took it all home. All I really wanted was the desk, so I was pretty mercenary in sorting quickly through the rest of the stuff when we got home. I gave away the crystal chandelier (stupid), and most of the other items pronto. There were boxes upon boxes of books, and being avid readers , I was a little more select with these. I sat down on the floor and started a "to go" and a "to keep" pile. I tossed a copy (not first printing) of "The Great Gatsby" by F.Scott Fitzgerald on the "to go" pile (had read it), and when it landed, the cover opened and it had pencil writing inside. It was a personal note to the receiver, and signed by F. Scott Fitzgerald! I have only attempted to have this authenticated once at a local bookstore, and was told that he was never known to sign his books in pencil, and that it is probably fake. So here I am with this book, and I'd like to think it's real! Kathleen
I always enjoy the letters written regarding the wonderful pastime and business of antiques and collectibles.
I must respond to the letter from Dr. Kensington sharing what he describes has the "characteristics of a very good mall". For 7 years I had a booth at a very nice mall in NJ and would like to share what we would suggest to customers in order to keep the very nice malls nice:
*Please leave all large bags in your car.....some unsavory customers bring in the bags so they can help themselves to the merchandise and unfortunately there have been times that the honest ones unintentionally have walked through a booth and cleared off a complete rack of expensive antique glassware/figurines etc. with their over sized purses.
* If you bring your children in w/you, please do not let them run amok down the aisles or play w/ the antique dolls/toys.
* Please if you accidentally break something have the courtesy to let someone know about it and maybe even "offer" to pay for all or part of the damage. Most the time a good dealer will not insist on it, but it is nice to offer.
*Please do not bring in food/drinks. I wish I had a dollar for every paper coffee cup/plastic water bottle/soda can, we (the dealers) have had to pickup from booths, sometimes on the tops of antique pieces of furniture.....a wet ring on a piece of wood furniture can ruin a beautiful piece and coffee/soda, can stain antique clothing/linens etc.
* We want you look at the folded/hanging linens and clothes but Please don't leave them in a messy heap when you are done.
* We try to keep the bathrooms clean, Please do not leave the seat wet (not to mention other things I have seen), clog the toilets, throw your garbage on the floor.
* We all enjoy the price game in the Antiques World...Please do not automatically "expect" a discount on every item or spend 1/2 hour dickering on a price if you are not serious about purchasing the item. Also the way to get a lower price is not by pointing out all the flaws the item has, if it is in such bad condition why do you want it? A simple "Are you firm on this price" will usually get the ball rolling.
**** The most important thing to remember......PLEASE bring your manners (preferably your good ones) in the door with you......
The bottom line is, an Antique Mall is only as good as the dealers and the customers. It takes two to make a good working relationship....it should and can be fun for everyone involved with a little common courtesy & good manners.
Thank you for having this forum available that covers so many aspects of antiquing, be it business or hobby, positive or negative, I have learned a lot by reading this newsletter over the years.
Happy Hunting......Cindy from Jersey
I am a dealer in Central Texas. I generally find my merchandise at estate auctions and garage sales. I have several booths in an antique mall. I pay rent and a commission on everything I sell. I also sell on ebay, which also charges fees and is very time consuming. I am very thorough with my descriptions and take many pictures. I have found that I must at least double my cost to make a small amount of money. Recently a friend of mine retired to Hawaii. She had several boxes of things that she just couldn't take with her since everything had to be shipped and her new house was small. She planned to put all these things in a garage sale. I told her I would try to sell them on ebay and get the most money I could for the items that she would have just practically given away. We are splitting the price. That's right! I'm taking 50%. This is what I do. I go to garage sales and buy things low and sell them high. (At least that's always my plan.) Some things don't make me any profit and some make a lot, but the same amount of effort is spent to sell each item. My friend never questioned my fee and has been happy with the result. Every item has netted her more than what she would have tagged it for in her garage sale. So far, the best item was a German pocket cork screw. It sold for $165.00. I'm sure she wouldn't have tagged it at $82.50. More like 3 or 4 dollars. I do not believe I am taking advantage of her at all. Taking advantage would have been to let her price everything and then buying it all from her at garage sale prices. Am I wrong about this? Judy in Waco
Hi, Once again I must reply w/ "the dealers side of the story" to a question that was raised in this weeks news letter. The subject being .....no price tag on items in Antiques stores. Well as for myself I know I have spent hour upon hour pricing each & every item, sometimes even using safety pins when I could, to insure that the price stayed on.....Low & behold many times I would go in to my booth only to find that someone had brought a item to the counter asking a price or while checking my inventory would find items w/ no tags that I knew I had placed one.
So what happened to the price tag??
Sometimes the sticky tags dry up and fall off so the dealer must check from time to time to make sure that isn't the case but also... I "speculate" that the tags are sometimes deliberately taken off in hopes that the person at the counter will take an offer. Also unfortunately tags are removed by unscrupulous dealers, knowing that quite often store policy is to not sell the item if there was no tag and the dealer isn't there to give the customer a price themselves.
It is a great business and lots of fun but unfortunately there are customers & dealers both, that want to change the rules of the game.....so they have a greater advantage.
Several years ago I moved out of my space at a local Mall & boy was I surprised at how many tags I found on the floor behind my cases and shelves, some that had to have been "taken" off, some that most likely had fallen off. When a customer at times could not find a tag on an item I would suggest and help them look around the floor of the booth, you would be surprised how often we found the tag laying there. It worked out for them & the dealer who otherwise may have lost a sale.
There was also times when it was evident that a price tag had been changed with another cheaper item, which is why it is so important for dealers to put a small description of the item on the tag not just a price/booth #. The more info. you can get on the tag the better for everyone, the customer, the dealer & the cashier. I have seen dealers who have had terrible handwriting that can't be read, or haven't put clear descriptions on items and then when there is a "misunderstanding" caused by themselves, flip out on cashiers, just trying to do their jobs.
In closing, please don't automatically "get miffed" at the store, the dealer or cashier. Keep in mind that it is a business run by people, who love Antiques, for people, who love Antiques & when you deal w/ humans you must deal w/ human err & sometimes bad judgment....
ANTIQUES & COLLECTING should be FUN...... Thanks again for being available to share my point of view. C. from NJ
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The Krogers story made me smile and think of our own story. I came from a small family of 5 and grew up with no extended family--No Grandmas, no Grandpas, no Cousins or Aunts or Uncles, by my parent's choice-go figure. What a loss, now that as an adult, I realize what I missed and I know how important extended family is.
Anyway, my dear husband's family is a large, loud, loving Sicilian family, and he and his siblings are first generation American, with all the older relatives born in Sicily. Aunt Josie was in her 70's when I met her as a newlywed, and her English was fine but she has some funny names for things.
For years growing up, my husband knew that "andyboy" came in green and white--But he preferred the green. When asked, he would be told: "Joey-andyboy green, or white?" and he would choose green.
It wasn't until he was much older, and in school, that he learned that broccoli and cauliflower were two different vegetables! "Andy Boy" was the grower's name, and since that's what was stamped on the case, that's what the Sicilian women thought it was called.To this day, when you buy broccoli in the grocery store, look at the little sticker: It says Andy Boy. Alicia Accardi, North Port, FL
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In the last issue, Maggie in Solvang CA requested recipes for hand held fruit pies. Several recipes were mailed in by a readers...
My grandmother made these as well. She used dried apples (you can buy them in the grocery store, use the whole package) and covered the apples with water to soak overnight. To this she added 2/3 cup of sugar, 1 tsp cinnamon and 1/8tsp salt and cooked until the apples were done. She made biscuit dough as though she were making biscuits, pinched off enough dough for a biscuit, rolled it out flat, put a tablespoon of apples in the center, dampened the outside edge to seal, then folded it over and sealed it, fried it in hot fat till brown on one side, then flipped it over to finish browning. I would say the temperature was at 350 if you cook it in a deep fryer. Sprinkle sugar over each pie as it cools...they are wonderful. If you don't want to fry them, them at 375 till brown. Frying is preferred.
Sandi McBride - Jefferson, SC
FRIED (APPLE) PIES
2 c. sifted flour
1/4 tsp. salt
1/2 c. shortening
6 tbsp. ice water
Sift flour with salt into mixing bowl. Cut in shortening. Add enough ice water to make a stiff dough. Roll out half of the dough at a time. Cut in circles about 4 inches across. Place 1 heaping tablespoon dried apples or applesauce in the circle. Lightly dampen the circle with ice water and fold in half. Use a fork to press and seal the edges together. Press tops with a fork at least 3 times.
Assemble all pies before frying. In a skillet, place 1 1/2 cups oil; heat well. Brown pies well on each side. Drain well on a paper towel and sprinkle tops with sugar while pies are still hot. Carol--Cullman, AL
The following handheld pie recipe is from Alton Brown on the Food Network. The reason I've sent it is because on his show he stressed the importance of using a biscuit dough for the crust in order to get the traditional texture.
Recipe courtesy Alton Brown, 2005
Show: Good Eats -
Episode: A Pie in Every Pocket
9 1/2 ounces all-purpose flour, approximately 2 cups
2 teaspoons baking powder
3/4 teaspoon kosher salt
2 1/2 ounces shortening, approximately 6 tablespoons
3/4 cup milk
1 egg mixed with 1 to 2 teaspoons water
Vegetable, canola oil or butter, for frying
Chocolate Filling, recipe follows (any other filling may be used)
In the bowl of a food processor, combine the flour, baking powder and salt. Pulse for a few seconds and then pour into a large mixing bowl.
Add the shortening and knead it into the flour with your hands until it is crumbly. Add the milk all at once and mix in with a spatula until it begins to come together. Lightly flour your hands and the countertop and turn the dough out onto the countertop. Knead the dough ball, folding over 10 to 20 times. Using a rolling pin roll the dough to 1/3 to 1/2-inch thickness, then cut into rounds using a 2 1/4-inch ring. Roll each round as thinly as possible or to 5 to 6 inches in diameter. Spoon 1 to 2 tablespoons of filling onto the dough, brush the edges of half of the dough lightly with the egg wash, fold over and seal the edges together with the tines of a fork, dipping it into flour as needed. Gently press down to flatten and evenly distribute the filling and snip or cut 3 slits in the top of the pie. Dock pies that are going to be deep-fried, instead of snipping or cutting slits.
To pan-fry pies, place a medium saute pan over medium low heat along with 1 to 2 tablespoons vegetable, canola oil or butter. Once heated, place 2 to 3 pies at a time into pan and saute until golden on both sides, approximately 3 to 4 minutes per side. Allow to cool 4 to 5 minutes before serving.
To deep-fry pies, heat vegetable oil in a deep-fryer or a large heavy pot to 375 degrees F. Once hot, add 1 to 2 pies at a time and fry until golden brown, approximately 3 to 4 minutes.
To bake pies, preheat the oven to 350 degrees F. Place finished pies onto an ungreased cookie sheet and bake for 25 to 30 minutes or until golden brown.
To make toaster pastries:
Preheat oven to 350 degrees F.
Divide dough in half and roll out to less than 1/8-inch thick. Cut into 4 inch by 5 inch rectangles. Place 1 to 2 tablespoons of filling onto center of one piece of dough. Brush the edges with egg wash and top with second piece of dough. Seal edges by pressing together with tine of fork. Gently press down to flatten and evenly distribute the filling and dock the top of the pie. Repeat with second half of dough.
Bake for 20 minutes. Remove from the oven, allow to cool completely and place into zip-top bags until ready to toast. The pies will not be brown until toasted.
2 1/2 cups sugar
1/4 cup plus 1 tablespoon cocoa powder
Pinch kosher salt
10 ounces unsalted butter, room temperature
Place the sugar, cocoa powder, salt, and butter into a large zip-top bag and squish to combine. Cut a whole in 1 corner of the bag.
For each pie, pipe 1 to 2 tablespoons of mixture onto the center of the dough. Follow directions above.
Yield: enough for 10 to 15 pies
We had these often when I was young and I made them for my kids too.
They are called fried pies in the south.
make your favorite pie dough
use a large round cutter (as big as you like) to cut out each pie shape
fill half the dough with any desired fruit or cream filling that you would use for a regular pie
(mama always made apple ones from dried apples that came in a bag at the store. just cook the apples in enough water to cover and add sugar & spices to taste. make sure they are not runny but thick enough to hold their shape)
turn the other half of the dough over the filling and crimp the edges really well with a fork
heat pure,clean oil in a heavy skillet and fry each side until brown and flakey
drain and cool on paper towels
watch them disappear- Nancci
My mom, who never considered herself a cook (but she was!), would make these special treats for us out of canned biscuits, the kind in the dairy case that you pop open to bake.
She would take one of the biscuits, roll it out to about 1/4" , put stewed apples, apricots, or other fruits on one half of the rolled out biscuit, fold it over, and then use a fork to press the edges together. Then she would place them in heated vegetable oil until the pastry would puff up and get golden brown. They were great hot and not so bad later when they were cool!
Hope this helps. I have also heard of others using egg roll wrappers to do much the same! Sheila
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My mother used to make the most wonderful, flakey pie crust. She used milk and oil. I thought she had the measurements written down, but I cannot find them. Can someone help. Thank you, Anne
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