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The Collectors Newsletter #352 August 2005

The Collectors Newsletter #352 August 2005

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In this issue, you will read about....
1. More Kids (and adults) in Stores
2. Today's Headlines from News-Antique.com
3. Your Classifieds
4. Increase the value of your collection. (Sponsors message)
5. Lost and Found
6. News from the Kovels
7. Newly listed items
8. Funny Old Stuff
9. Wanted ads. Can you help?
10. A Vintage Recipe
11. A Vintage Recipe Request from a Reader
12. New Online Merchants
13. Helpful Resources For Collectors

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1) After you read these stories, tell us your interesting story. Send your
story to newsletter@tias.com and we may publish it here . We want to
hear any interesting or unusual stories you would like to share with us
that are related to collecting or anything vintage.

After reading several of the stories about kids in antique stores, I had to
write. For many years, I have loved to browse around second hand stores
in our area. When my son and daughter were small, they knew that they
had to look at things with their eyes not their hands. I had explained that
sometimes you couldn't touch things you saw because if it broke we would
have to pay for it. They are now 14 and 12 and I have yet to have them
break anything. In fact one store owner remarked to me recently how
much my son had changed from the little boy who had to look at everything
and how I reminded him about not touching. My son is as welcome in that
store to browse (he loves to look at old tools) as any adult who comes in.
If they had implied that my children were not welcome, they would have
lost my business. Pam from Maine

- Another Story -

My comment is not so much related to antiquing as it is to shopping in
general. I have been reading everyone's letters on how children are
prejudged and often disrespected in stores -- and, as this happened with
me and my well-mannered son when he was only 5 years old, I certainly
tend to sympathize on the child's behalf. (I left the store very quickly when
my son was treated unfairly.) I also agree that the parent is most often the
root of the problem.

This is where my story comes in. Our son Austin was only about 6 or 7
when my husband and I took him with us to a carpet and flooring store to
look for an area rug. There were rugs piled on top of each other, and big
"flipcharts" of carpet samples. My son was staying close to us and looking
at everything in his usual mature and responsible manner when a mother
accompanied by three young children came in. These kids were all over
the place: jumping off of the stacked rugs and even climbing up the
carpet-sample flipcharts. Meanwhile, the mother did nothing. Then my
son spoke up -- in the loud, innocent voice of the very young -- and
asked, "Mom, can you believe those kids? I don't know why their mom
lets them behave like that!"

The obviously embarrassed young mother, who had heard every word,
quickly rounded up her children and hustled them out of there. I chuckle
every time I think about it and hope that my boy might be indirectly
responsible for better manners in at least three kids out there.
-- Kim from Phoenix

- Another Story-

I had to write after reading the responses that you've had in the last two
issues. I'm another one of those kids whose parents were in every antique
shop and country auction. One of my earliest childhood memories is getting
to see a pair of Tiffany candlesticks that were in this tiny shop that was
packed to the ceiling with wonderful treasures. It had been an old grocery
store in the 40's and 50's and the original canned goods were still on the
shelves. They fascinated me as much as the Tiffany did.

To all the dealers out there who don't let children in their shops... some
of us never get it out of our blood... I've been collecting now for 40+
years.... and I am thankful to the dealers who helped me learn about their
treasures at a very early age..... Shirley

- Another Story -

Hi, I love your newsletter and look forward to it each week. I can certainly
relate to the antique shop rudeness stories.I am a 26 year old antiques
dealer. I specialize in Victorian-1920s clothing,accessories,antique estate
jewelry,vintage perfumes, porcelain and glassware. I am also very short
(5' to be exact and look a lot younger than I am) and sometimes my looks
work against me when I am at antique stores. The proprietors usually
assume I am much younger, like a teenager and will generally follow me
around the store as if I am going to rob them blind. I find this extremely
annoying. I normally make it a point to greet them when I enter a store,
even if they don't greet me first. They will walk up to me several times as I
am perusing their store, asking if I need help. I reply with stuff like, "yes I
am looking for battersea enamel boxes do you happen to have any?" or
" do you happen to have any antique clothing that isnt out on display?". I
almost always find something to purchase and when I go up to the counter,
the shop owners still have this untrusting air about them, even after I pay!
But always before I leave their store, I hand them one of my business
cards!! that usually garners a very surprising look which to me looks more
like they put their foot in their mouths. Does anyone else have this
problem of being followed because of their looks or age? I have been in
the antique business since I was a young teenager when I started
picking for local dealers. I really enjoy having my own business now and
antiques are my passion.I go to auctions several times a week and am
usually the youngest dealer present, I have found many older people
whom I can honestly call friends. I just wish that some older people could
accept the fact that us younger folks are the new bath of dealers and
future antique store owners and show us the same respect we show them.
Even though we are your new competition, We arent out to rob you or
disrespect you. I have met some other younger dealers around my age
and they seem just as passionate as everyone else in the trade.My advice
to younger dealers, get yourselves some business cards and hand them
out to different dealers, you may also garner some new connections
along with respect and equality. We are all in the same business together
so no reason to discriminate against age,no matter how young or how
old. ---Miss Grace from Salem,NJ
HEY! Send us your "Antique Shop" story. We've had some great ones
but we want to hear yours too!
Comments, thoughts? Post them online at:
We collect interesting stories about collecting. Things like your best find,
unusual collections, bizarre collectibles. Anything and everything that is
interesting that has to do with collecting. We may publish it here. Send
your story to newsletter@tias.com

2) Today's Antiques & Collectibles Headlines from http://News-Antique.com

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- Dont Get Fooled by Fake Bakelite - http://tinyurl.com/9foyp

- Trinket Box Collection Offered - http://tinyurl.com/7umxf

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5) Lost and Found
We have a new email address for lost and found comments and requests!
Send them to -- LostAndFound@tias.com

We accept two types of Lost and found submissions for publication in this

1. You have a vintage item in hand and you are trying to find relatives of
the original owner(s). This could be an old photo album, baby book, diploma,
Family Bible, or other vintage items that can be linked to a specific person
or family.

2. You are looking for a fairly common vintage item that has deep personal
meaning for you or someone you know. I'm sorry, but we do not post
requests for "one of a kind items" that have been lost or stolen.

Remember to include as many details about the item(s) as you can. For
your story to run in this section, you must include your email address and
allow us to publish it. If this service helps you eventually track down the
relatives or find an item, please tell us about it in a follow-up story.
Looking for an item
I just wanted to say I truly enjoy reading your newsletter, especially the
Lost and Found section. I am looking for something and I don't know if
this falls under that category, but here goes. I am trying to locate a copy
of an old soft cover book that mentions my family and their history. The
name of the book is "Isca on the Ionia Sea" or "Isca sullo Ionio"
(in Italian). It was written by a man named Armando Miriello and
translated from Italian by a woman named Vivino. If anyone out there
has a copy to sell, please contact Stephanie at sissy50sissy@excite.com.
I would live to find a copy of this book again.
How about you? Do you have some special vintage item that is in need of
its owner or are you looking for a special item or person? Maybe we can
help. Send us info at LostAndFound@tias.com


"Watch out for the words that advertise jewelry," warn antiques and
collectibles experts Ralph and Terry Kovel in KOVELS ON ANTIQUES
AND COLLECTIBLES newsletter. Looking for a ring made of "FORDITE"?
It is not a stone, but scrapings from a factory wall covered with thick
layers of paint sprayed on Ford automobiles, probably in the 1960s. The
hardened rock like "gem" is very colorful, and it's hard enough to seem to
be a stone.

For more information on the Kovels' newsletter,
click http://www.tias.com/stores/kovel/specialnews.html

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8) Funny Old Stuff
This is our humor section. These are humorous stories and comments that
are sent in by readers. If you have a submission you would like to share,
please send it to newsletter@tias.com and we may run it in the next issue.
My daughter was browsing an antique shop with her then 6-year old son
when he spotted an old cash register. He excitedly cried "Oh, Mommy,
look at the antique FAX machine!" It then dawned on her that the child had
never seen anything but the computerized scanners they now have in the
stores. Mary
Do you have a funny story or joke you would like to share? Make someone
feel good by sharing it with us. Send it to newsletter@tias.com and we may
publish it here.

9) Wanted ads. Can you help?
Here are the latest wanted ads from the TIAS Exchange. Can
you help someone out? To place an ad of your own take a look at:



Wanted: Old Guitars and Amplifiers

WANTED: Vintage Clothing Late 60's and Older
Looking for something? Place a "Wanted" ad in this newsletter. Over
230,000 subscribers. It's easy, go to: http://www.tiasExchange.com

10) A Vintage Recipe
In the last issue "Jan S." requested a recipe for "Vinegar pie".
If you have a variation of this recipe that you would like to share with
our readers, please post it to:
Be sure to also check out this weeks recipe request, below.
Several readers wrote in regarding the incredible detail that Andrew Fenn.
of W. Australia went into in the last issue in regard to making doughnuts.
Andrew, we just wanted you to know that you have quite a few fans now :-)
Yes, we have had this request before, but here are some different recipes
for it....

I can't really say that this recipe is mine-- What I can say, is that I really
love to look up the "Vintage recipe requests" and see what I can find! I have
ended up trying several recipes that I've found, if only from the perspective
of "who would have known that THIS tasted like THAT". Heather

There are a lot of Vinegar Pie recipes; this was the only one that involved


2 cups water
2 tablespoons oil
1/2 cup vinegar
3/4 cup sugar
1 tablespoon cornstarch
Pinch of salt

1 cup milk
1/2 cup oil
1/4 teaspoon soda
21/2 cups flour
1 teaspoon baking powder

In a pan, mix water and cornstarch well. Add sugar, vinegar and salt; bring
to a boil, stirring constantly. In a bowl, mix dumplings as for drop biscuits.
Drop into boiling syrup, 1 teaspoon at a time. Cook until done. To test for
doneness, stick with toothpick to see if the center is doughy.

-Another Recipe-

I read about the request for vinegar pie and knew just the cook book to look
in! This recipe is from a cookbook named "Seems like I done it this a-way"
by Cleo Stiles Bryan. It was printed in 1974 It is a wonderful cookbook with
quite creative yet natural writing when giving a recipe. My husband is the
baker in the family and loves this cookbook. It is quite a lengthy recipe but
well worth the reading....

Mom's Vinegar Pie

My sister Blanch and brother Ford worked out the recipe Mom used while
we were growing up. Blanch tells how it was done and it is typical of the
way a cook gets off the subject while talking a s she cooks. She began:
"Take 1 cup sugar, 5 cups water, and 1/2 tsp. salt. (stops, tells story of how
Mom met Dad) Now add a heaping tablespoon of butter. (Then they married
and had Ford, Jesse and Raymond. Mom covered her face with a net scarf
while in mourning when Raymon died. She had a sallow complexion while
she was carrying me, guess that's why mine is like it is! Same thing
happened to Bill. I was about 2 years old when we lived in Grayson Co.
Texas on the Gunter Ranch. ) Now stir and boil real good. In another pan
make a batch of dumplings. Now, I'm gonna tell you how I do it! Take 4
heaping handfulls of flour (2 cups), a pinch or two of salt (1/4 tsp.) sprinkled
lightly over the flour and mix in 1 tsp. sugar. I don't remember whether
Mamma did this or not, but I am going to. Now put in a heaping tablespoon
lard. You can use Crisco, but Mom used lard. Use water like you are going
to make pie crust. Cream lard and flour before adding water. Now days, I
turn the faucet on and let it drip. You can tell exactly how much you want
that way and don't get too much. Just barely let it drip. Cold water, of
course. That's the equivalent of loading your mouth with water and spewing
gently as done in some backwoods countries. Now see, its just like a pie
crust. I get it ready to roll out. Put a little handful of four (1/4 cup) on
cabinet or dough board and roll it out like pie crust thickness. Cut like
dumplings. Cut it in inch wide strips of dough. Break them off and put in
the boiling mixture (about 1 1/2 inches long). bring to a rolling boil and drop
dumplings in. Cook dumplings until transparent. Test for doneness.
After sugar and water mixture boils, add 10 tablespoons vinegar (apple
cider is not so sharp. ) Thicken with flour and water if necessary. Its
Scrumsious! " By Blanch Otwell Fayetteville. Another variation" Add 1
to 2 pts. fresh blackberries to the vinegar pie and cook before adding
dumplings. This makes a Sweet Sour Blackberry Cobbler. By Beverly
Stiles, Dallas Texas.

I hope this is worth your reading and printing. It is quite refreshing and
brings bake memories of the good ole days. Kind Regards, C. Childre

-Another Recipe-

For Jan S. I hope this is the recipe you are looking for.

From Hillbilly Cookin 2 copyright 1972

Clinch Mountain Vinegar Pie

1 cup sugar 1 cup water
2 eggs Small lump butter or margarine
2 tablespoons vinegar 1/2 teaspoon lemon extract
2 tablespoons flour (or corn starch)

Combine sugar, eggs, vinegar, flour (or corn starch), and water in a double
boiler and cook until thick and smooth, stirring occasionally. Just before
removing from heat, stir in small lump of butter and some lemon extract.
Pour into baked pie shell. If desired, the pie may be topped with frosting
or whipped cream. Melonie
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11) A vintage recipe request from a reader
As with collectibles, people also have very strong feelings about foods
from their past. Sometimes these special recipes get lost. This section
is to help people who are looking for lost recipes from their past. If you
submit a request, please include the geographical region where
you had this recipe.
Back in my younger days in Oklahoma, my Mom made a wonderful 3
layer yellow cake. The frosting was cooked and tasted like white fudge.
She put drained crushed pineapple and pecans between the layers an
frosted with this cooked frosting. I never got her recipe and wonder if
anyone has it. R.T. and Ina
If you can help this reader with this recipe, please forward it to
recipes@tias.com . If you have a vintage recipe request send it to
recipes@tias.com and we might just publish it here.
Be sure to check out our vintage kitchen collectibles section online at:

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