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The Collectors Newsletter #846 -- February 2011

The Collectors Newsletter #846 -- February 2011

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1. Work from home selling antiques & collectibles
2. This Week's Survey
3. Stories From our readers
4. This Week's Antique News
5. Your Classifieds
6. Newly listed items
7. Funny Old Stuff
8. Wanted ads. Can you help?
9. A Vintage Recipe
10. A Vintage Recipe Request from a Reader
11. New On line Merchants
12. Helpful Resources For Collectors

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1. Work from home selling antiques & collectibles.
In your spare time you can sell antiques and collectibles from home.
Since 1995 TIAS.com has been helping dealers and collectors just like you to sell their antiques and collectibles online. It costs you nothing to kick the tires and see if an online store is right for you. Give TIAS a try today at: http://www.MakeAShop.com

2. This Week's Survey
Ever week we post a new survey question and the results from the previous week's survey. Survey questions are about anything related to antiques & collectibles. If you have a suggestion for a survey question, email it to me at phil@tias.com and we might use it in the next newsletter.
Come and visit us on Facebook where you can post comments and photos - see us at http://bit.ly/cguVAo
This weeks survey question is ....

"An appraisal fair is an event where people can bring items to be appraised. Probably the best known appraisal fair is the "Antiques Roadshow" on PBS.
Is it ethical for dealers or auction houses appraising items at these fairs to buy or acquire items for auction that they have just appraised?"

It takes just a few seconds to give us your anonymous opinion at: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WNPCL88 We'll tabulate the results and publish them in next week's newsletter.

Last Week's Survey Question Was....

"Many museums around the world have antiquities on display that were taken from other countries. As an example, the British Museum has the Elgin Marbles which were taken from Greece and the Greeks would love to have them back. If a country such as Greece wants their antiquities back, should they be returned?"

72.7% said "Yes, the museum should return the antiquities"
27.3% said "No, the museum should keep the antiquities"

We received many additional responses to this question. Some of the alternative answers were quite interesting.
Here are some written replies that were included with the results from last week's survey
a) If those items where pilfered from that country and yes they should be returned. Or at least a good portion of them, with some remaining to be shone as something from another culture.

b) Copies can be produced and the originals returned without any major loss to a display and 'goodwill' is restored with the country of origin which was never a factor in the past.

c) Theft of artifacts is a major symptom of colonial oppression. It is wrong to keep these items, just as it was wrong to steal them in the first place. It is wrong to colonize the very history of a people, just as it is wrong to colonize their land and bodies.

d) Unless the items were originally taken by agreement -- and let's face it, that's usually not the case -- the country where they reside has no legitimate claim for keeping them. If a government wants its treasures back and it is not going to endanger the pieces a la Bamiyan, they should be returned.

e) You need another category. It depends on how and when they were taken and the stability of the country wanted it returned and the country in possession of the item.

f) Most artifacts are safer in the countries that took them then in the original countries. The British Museum has huge amounts of absconded artifact from third world countries that would have been lost if not for them. If the countries that lost their heritage are stable the artifact should be returned.

g) They were stolen and should be returned to the country they were stolen from. Especially the Rosetta Stone and Nefertti bust. It's outrages what excuses the museums that have for keeping them. They don't belong to them!

h) If they were given to them, or they paid for them, it is theirs. How far back do you want to go to determine ownership? 100 years, 1000 years?

i) They are the history of the original country and as such should be returned

j) I say no; but, probably depends on each individual situation of acquirement. Someone said "All is fair in love and war". Museum displays from other countries (or other cities, states, cultures, etc.) expand knowledge and interest in things from around the world. A museum that could only display items from their area would not be near as interesting or informative. Nancy in Kansas who will probably never get outside of the U.S. and loves visiting museums!

k) We actually debated this in my college Art Appreciation class and the consensus was the items should be returned. Sometimes they sue to get them returned. It is a part of their country, history and culture. It is the same principle of someone broke into your house and stole something - you would want it bac k and had a right to get it returned.

l) I believe that most should be kept to educate people in the host countries that may never be able to travel throughout the rest of the world. I do believe that donations of antiquities back to the countries of origin should be encouraged.

m) If a country can care for their antiquities as good as the country that is now looking after them....I say its about time to return them. Politics being what it is I'm sure there would likely be some kind of "Give & Take"

n) They are the owner, some of things were taken out of the original country prior to interest now shown in antiques. If it belongs to Greece, it doesn't belong to England

o) The antiquities were taken illegally. They were plundered. The robbers hacked apart national treasures destroying original objects of beauty. The treasures should be repatriated, and the plundering countries should pay heavy fines.

p) There needs to be a third category here! It really depends upon how the antiquities were obtained. If by a permitted dig with an original understanding that the items were going out of the country, then by all means the objects belong to the country that currently has them. Illegally? Then certainly they should be returned.

q) If an antique was stolen from your home and it was discovered who had it, wouldn't you expect it returned?

A good example is Laundry Woman with Toothache by Degas that was going up for auction recently at Sotheby's from a private party. He had no idea it was stolen 37 years ago. It's worth ranges between $350,000 to $450,000 and he had to surrender it to authorities to be return it to the French government. Who ends up with it is really beside the point, as any buyer should do their home work first.

On the other hand it is very interesting to have pieces of history from around the world in our museums. It would seem reasonable that a settlement might be worked out in order to keep them, however, if the original owner wants them back, stolen property should be returned.

r) Tough question. The Elgin Marbles were excavated and restored at great cost by the English and purchased by England in 1816 from the Ottomans, who were in control of the region for centuries. However, the panels are part of the Pantheon, a great Greek heritage site. So, one can see both sides. Since the British had the foresight to save them, went to great expense to save the marble panels from destruction, and restored them, they have ownership. Everyone should be glad that these relics were saved and are now on public display. In regard to the question, antiquities should only be returned if they were illegally stolen (i.e. through war, invasion, regular theft, etc.).

s) I hate to say it, but countries that have legitimate claim to antiquities ought to get them back--as long as they can guarantee the safety of the treasures in question. No matter what you call it, it is/was looting, unless it was done to save the items in question from destruction or black market action. Can't help but think that tomb robbing by any other name is still tomb robbing...

u) By allowing antiques from other countries to displayed elsewhere, it assure that at least some of them may last for all to see, i.e. Egypt came very close to having their own treasures destroyed by their own people... if they had, and all the Egypt treasures were there, they would have been lost forever.

v) In most cases they are legally purchased and represent an attempt to interpret the heritage of that country to others around the world. I think it's a win/win. If they are not legally purchased, they should be returned.

3. Stories from our readers
We collect interesting stories about collecting. Things like your best find, unusual collections, bizarre collectibles even things that bug you. Anything and everything that is interesting that has to do with antiques & collectibles. We may publish it here. Send your story to Phil@tias.com
I'm not surprised that the internet won out over print sources (for researching antiques & collectibles), but the huge gap does surprise me. I belong to a glass and pottery sellers group, and all of us use books extensively. I'm a small seller and collector, and I have a library of over 50 books on glass and porcelain. Still I always use internet sources too.

--Another Story--

This is in response to Jacquline in Priceton La. When you go to an auction the terms are clearly set by the auctioneer, the hammer price plus a buyers premium and any tax if applicable. When you see an item you want, you should factor these elements into your bid. Most auctioneers have a sliding scale to the sellers, maybe up to 50 percent for low price items and down to 10 percent on the higher end. there is a lot of work in setting up an auction and expenses that may not be seen by the public. She is right not attend if she does not like the terms however the auctioneer has every right to make a living. The buyers premium helps off set the total he needs to be profitable, otherwise his charge to the seller would be that much more. This method helps spread the cost of doing business between the seller and the buyer. Tom B Timonium Md.

4. This week's Antique News

If you want to tell the world about your antiques & collectibles business, auction, club or upcoming event related to the antiques and collectibles trade, you can post it for free at http://www.News-Antique.com the #1 listing on Google for "Antique News" Your news release will get published online and will also appear in this newsletter so that 16,000 people can read it. To post a release, go to http://www.News-Antique.com
Check the latest news headlines about antiques and collectibles at http://www.News-Antique.com
1. Quinn's presents international array of fine
art and furniture March 5 in suburban
Washington D.C.
Click here: http://news-antique.com/?id=796698

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3. Heritage Auctions to host auction benefiting
the Smithsonian’s National Numismatic Collection
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4. Duke’s to sell the contents of Thomas Kerr’s
Provencal home…
Click here: http://news-antique.com/?id=796694

5. Madonna as Pop Culture Icon This Week at
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6. Kovels.com adds thousands of prices to their
free online price guide
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7. The Hong Kong Coin Auction No. 50 -
Click here: http://news-antique.com/?id=796688

8. Major multi-estate auction slated for Feb.
26 by Finney's
Click here: http://news-antique.com/?id=796680

9. Unique and classy assortment of traditional
rings has been presented by vintageyard.com
Click here: http://news-antique.com/?id=796666

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11. Estate Sales Expert Offers Up to $500.00
Click here: http://news-antique.com/?id=796649

12. Artfact Live! January Auction Results Roundup
Click here: http://news-antique.com/?id=796648

13. WorthPoint Poll Measures Pulse of Antiques
& Collectibles Industry
Click here: http://news-antique.com/?id=796647

14. Xcntric Estate Sales Chicago Upcoming
Orland Park Illinois Estate Sale
Click here: http://news-antique.com/?id=796632

15. John Wayne Letter Discussing Health &
Frank Sinatra: Movie Posters - Autographs
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16. Email A Free Antique Valentine's Card
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18. Shamrock Garden Antiques
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MANY more stories are added several times a day. You can read the latest news now at:

5, Your Classifieds...
Time Was Antiques Shelley China Specialists

Mickey Mouse Wooden Rocking Horse, Mengel Playthings


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6. Newly listed items for your online shopping pleasure for Thursday February 17, 2011 Stop by and check out today's fresh inventory at:
TIAS.com - http://www.tias.com/showcase
CollectorOnline - http://cgi.tias.com/showcase/?groupKey=7
AntiqueArts - http://cgi.tias.com/showcase/?groupKey=3
Earthling - http://cgi.tias.com/showcase/?groupKey=6

7, Funny Old Stuff
This is our humor section. These are humorous family stories and comments that are sent in by readers. If you have a submission you would like to share, please send it to newsletter@tias.com and we may run it in the next issue.
After reading about the Kool Aid snafu – no sugar added – it reminded me of my son. I have a tendency to get busy cooking and when I put the biscuits or garlic bread in the oven I have a tendency to forget about them until the fire alarm is going off!! My son told me one day “Mom the fire alarm is not the timer! Please don’t burn the bread!!”
Do you have a funny family story you would like to share? Make someone feel good by sharing it with us. Send it to newsletter@tias.com and we may publish it here.

8. Wanted ads. Can you help?
Here are the latest wanted ads from the TIAS Exchange. Can you help someone out?
WANTED: Vintage Medical and dental Items. Especially quackery.

WANTED: Gerardo Lopez Flatware --Vintage Taxco
GET YOUR WANTED AD HERE! Just $10 and we'll send it out to 15,000 people who get this newsletter. Go to http://www.tias.com/cgi-bin/submitClassified.cgi
Looking for something? Place a "Wanted" ad in this newsletter. Over 16,000 subscribers will see it. It's easy, go to: http://www.tias.com/cgi-bin/submitClassified.cgi

9. A Vintage Recipe
Be sure to check out our vintage recipe archive online at: http://www.tias.com/newsletter/topics/A%20Vintage%20Recipe.html Over 1200 wonderful vintage recipes are listed.

In the last issue Linda requested a recipe for "lemon icebox pie" we received the following...
cool and creamy old Southern classic: lemon icebox pie
3 eggs, room temperature
1/2 cup lemon juice
1 tsp lemon rind, grated
1 (14-ounce) can condensed milk
1 graham cracker crust, prepared
Preheat oven to 350 º F. Separate eggs, making sure that no yolk gets into the whites. Set whites aside. In a mixing bowl, beat egg yolks well. Add lemon juice, grated rind and condensed milk. Continue to whisk well. When blended, pour mixture into graham cracker crust. Bake for 20 minutes until filling is set. Remove from oven and allow to cool slightly.

3 egg whites
1 tbsp water
pinch of salt
1/4 tsp cream of tartar
5 tbsps sugar
1 tsp vanilla
In a large mixer bowl, beat egg whites, water and salt on high until foamy. Add cream of tartar and beat until stiff. Add 1 tbsp of sugar at a time, mixing well with each addition until all has been added. Add vanilla and blend for 30 seconds more. Cover the top of the pie with meringue. Make sure meringue adheres to crust so it will not shrink during baking. Bake at 350º F for 25-30 minutes, or until the top is a golden brown.

If you're looking for the No-Bake, whipped cream based, condensed milk Lemon Icebox Pie: Use the recipe below

Lemon Icebox pie
Pie Shell
1 1/2 cups finely ground graham crackers
1/3 cup sugar
8 tablespoons melted butter
Mix the graham cracker crumbs and the sugar, then stir in the melted butter. Press into your 8 or 9" pie pan. Cook the pie shell in a 375' oven for 8 - 10 minutes and let cool before adding your filling.
Pie Filling
1 can of sweetened condensed milk
12 oz of Cool Whip
1 small can of frozen lemonade (I think those are 6 oz?)
Combine the condensed milk, Cool Whip and frozen lemonade and pour into the pie crusts. Refrigerate until set. Serve and enjoy

Carol Thomas---Cullman,AL
If you enjoy these vintage recipes, you should buy a vintage cookbook from us. They make great gifts too. Take a look at: http://www.tias.com/cookbooks
Buy a Vintage Kitchen collectible from us. We've got lots of them here: http://www.tias.com/kitchen
10. A vintage recipe request from a reader
As with collectibles, people also have very strong feelings about foods from their past. Sometimes these special recipes get lost. This section is to help people who are looking for lost recipes from their past. If you submit a request, please include the geographical region where you had this recipe.
I'm looking for a tasty and easy to make "Coffee Cake" recipe. My best friend's mom made an incredible coffee cake for us back in the and I'd like to find something close. Ben
If you can help this reader with this recipe, please forward it to recipes@tias.com . If you have a vintage recipe request send it to recipes@tias.com and we might just publish it here.
Be sure to check out our vintage kitchen collectibles section online at: http://www.tias.com/kitchen

11. New Online Merchants
Be sure to check out all of the fresh inventory offered by these new merchants at TIAS.
Time Travelers Antiques
Welcome to Time Travelers Antiques! My wife and I have been collectors for over 20 years. My inventory includes Art, Glass, Pottery, Figurines, dinnerware and so much more at some of the best prices on to web.

Finders of Yesteryear
You will find a wide variety of vintage items, antiques, collectibles and memories of your childhood at "Finders of Yesteryear". Reasonable prices listed but offers are always welcomed.

Ace Antiques
Located in the foothills of the Great Smokey Mountains. Featuring pretty 1950s prom gowns, vintage costume jewelry, table linens and valentines, fine line of china including Johnson Brothers, Haviland, Fiesta, Nippon, RS Germany, Blueridge, and Depression glass.

Nico's Retro Toys
Welcome to Nico's Retro Toys! Looking for that "remember when" toy you loved and would like to have again? Nico's is the place to find retro, vintage toys and collectibles.

Old & Odd Antiques & Curiosities
Twenty-five years of experience selling quality antique and collectible photography, toys, advertising, Americana and ephemera. Fifteen years of experience selling online to satisfied customers.

Treasures include - European, Asian porcelain- Cups and Saucers - Carnival, Depression, Fenton Glass, Costume Jewelry and more. New, vintage, antique. We look forward to offering great deals and shipping discounts on multiple item purchases. Satisfaction guaranteed.

12. Helpful Resources:
1. Find an antiques or collectibles club. Nearly 2000 different clubs listed. Take a look at: http://www.tias.com/cgi-bin/clubs.cgi
2. What's it worth? Try Kovels' free online price guide to over 600,000 antiques and collectibles. It can be found online at http://www.kovels.com
3. Make money with your Web site. Join the TIAS.com affiliate program today. Go to http://www.tias.com/affiliates/
4. Get an online appraisal. For just $9.95 from "What's It Worth To You?" http://www.whatsitworthtoyou.com/tias.htm (Not affiliated with Kovels.com)

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